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Miral · Mar 26, 2007, 06:47 AM // 06:47

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Originally Posted by Taka Nagasani

Tell me how the log tells them to drop the level cap and turn this into grindwars?

They said they have logs of players that have spend thousands of hours playing. That says to me the level cap didn't bother them one bit.

It was a business decision, and they turned their back on the people that made them successful to sell out to become clone XXXX online game. They thought they could make more money becoming clone XXXX. No prob, don't fault them for it.

I do fault them for starting out the original GW saying they were trying to be different. Basicly all that they said back then is a bunch of BS with the changes coming to GW2 by what it appears so far.

yeah, I still wanna know more about these supposed logs that somehow told them the exact features to add.... people playing a lot, people using jump anim, people too stupid to realize you can't swim... people being racist, so lets add races? ... people use the /dance emote a lot, so why don't you add an entertainer profession? might as well rip off ideas from one more source... at least star wars galaxies is a bit more relevant than.... lilo and stitch

bart12300 · Mar 26, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

I guess my main concern is that GW 2 will end up being another Star Wars Galaxies... I really liked that game until they decided to lose their uniqueness and copy WoW in almost every aspect. I love GW 1 as it is right now, and I hope they don't change it much at all.

arcanemacabre · Mar 26, 2007, 06:53 AM // 06:53

Logs? Chat logs. Surely by that you would be able to tell what people are complaining about the most. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with how long people are playing and what emotes they use the most. Geesh, sometimes the easiest explanation is the best.

grottoftl · Mar 26, 2007, 07:20 AM // 07:20

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Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

And of course the ones keeping it real are the ones booing GW2's release for swiping out the appeals about GW1: The non-overwhelm of grinding to level 50 to 100. Thank goodness there is still no subscription fees, but GW1 does have a flexibility for the real life-busy consumer that have a job (not all having to deal with Computer games.)

are you kidding? the only ones that are "keeping it real" are the ones telling everybody to wait and see, and not freak out or get excited about guild wars 2. even when we read the article we still don't have enough information but you'll have some understanding why they are going for guild wars 2. so wait out for more information and try out the BETA which is a year away and the official release is supposely 2 years away! no point to get all upset and excited right now!

and why do you always end up thinking that IF we end up having a lvl 100 cap its going to be a massive grind? getting to lvl 100 could end up being fast same as we do now taking 2-3 days. but we still don't know since its in EARLY DEVELOPMENT. so wait and see before you jump the gun and quit being rude.

Dalmascan Princess · Mar 26, 2007, 07:43 AM // 07:43

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Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

Let's keep this real. The posters that are rooting for GW2's release are honestly just trying to brown nose to Gaile Gray and ArenaNet just to merit on their good side regardles if deep down what's to become of GW2 is just bad,unless they are one of those players who started GW1 so late that they feel left behind and to have absolutely no character migration in GW2 would give them somewhere to actually start. [...]

Oh please tell me you're joking. Such an ignorant response can't be real... So the people who's oppinion differs from yours are apparently just mindless Anet fanboys and -girls or just don't know what they're talking about? I hope I don't have to mention all the ways in which such a statement just sounds awfully wrong.

Bowman Artemis · Mar 26, 2007, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

Let's keep this real. The posters that are rooting for GW2's release are honestly just trying to brown nose to Gaile Gray and ArenaNet just to merit on their good side regardles if deep down what's to become of GW2 is just bad,unless they are one of those players who started GW1 so late that they feel left behind and to have absolutely no character migration in GW2 would give them somewhere to actually start. It is absolutely the equivelent to the Celebrity feud between Rosie O'Donnel and the Donald Trump: Where Rosie gets bashed for telling the truth about Donald by a public-band wagon, yet behind the scenes they agree with everyword she says, but is afraid to admit it in hopes the Donald would slip them a check. Although, I wouldn't mind getting a piece of that check. Shoot atleast you are getting quite some cash to kiss booty. However, Arenanet isn't giving us a tangible benefit.

And of course the ones keeping it real are the ones booing GW2's release for swiping out the appeals about GW1: The non-overwhelm of grinding to level 50 to 100. Thank goodness there is still no subscription fees, but GW1 does have a flexibility for the real life-busy consumer that have a job (not all having to deal with Computer games.)

Gaile, honestly how many people's opinions did you really get when you decided to "mingle" with the players? 2, 3? 6, right before you decided, "Ok I've given my shine and got my praise, I can go now."? I'm not trying to dog you, but GW2 is really seemng to be the WOW/Everquest-knock off. I mean you don't want to use the term "grinding" since its not the convenient term, but it does turn off a lot of the real consumers. GW did seem to target a lot of players, especially the ones with a life. (No a 16 year old Nerd working for the Yearbook staff isn't a life LOL), but our just now taking the target only to the consumers who have nothing to do in their real life but gain massive weight, eat cheese curls and play GW2 and every Online RPG they can get their hands on.

GW1 is a really good game. You can really accomplish enough to just rest it aside and come back later on such little spare time and do anything, but with GW2 I can imagine most of the consumers appearing on the Tyra Banks show, titled episode, "I my name is _______ and I have a RPG addiction." or the MTV Diary: The Lifeless RPGer. - Oh wait they already showed that episode. I really hope GW2 really steps up to the plate, for Arenanet's sake.

OMG YA!!! I M WNTING 2 PLY GW2 ND I HAV DA UBAR ROON OV LEET KIZSAZZ ON MAI PROSTHETIK LIPZ OV ASKIS IT GIVZ +100 2 ASKIZZ SKILLZ ND ADZ EPEEN LONGNESS LAWLZ@!!!

Honestly, enough generalisations and stereotypes. Please. They aren't dumping GW1, they just aren't going to expand it any more. I'm looking forward to GW2, why? Because it sounds like a good game. Shock horror!

I'll keep playing GW1, as will a lot of people on these forums, but GW2 will be a nice refreshing change too. There are plenty of people that play MMOs with high level caps that have lives as well.

Let me show you the way to the troll cave so you can join your brethren. Just northwest out of Droks, turn left at the tengu, follow the path and you're there! Enjoy!

Miral · Mar 26, 2007, 07:50 AM // 07:50

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Originally Posted by boko

Drop your Lilo and Stitch complain. From the start, Anet was ALWAYS taking inspiration form other sources. Charrs are harldy what i would call ORIGINAL. They are as much a rip off of Kilrathi as Asuras are from LiLo and Stitch. And on paper. they both seem out of place in a Heroic-Fantasy world.

Anet was always taking inspiration form other stuffs. Factions environment is also a blatant rip off of asia and Hong Kong. Night-Fall is a rip off of Egypt and its cultures. The story of a prince that goes and dies on the way is neither original too. Nor are centaurs or tengus.

Just because YOU suddenly realised that Anet is taking inspiration from other sources, does not mean that they are selling out to other MMO or games. Anet has always been doing that. It's YOU that think they are suddenly selling out to other MMO because they are ripping off from other sources when they were already doing those stuffs.

hm not played this Wing Commander... but the only good pic i could find, Kilrathi looks more like a mountain lion people... charr seem to look more like hiyenas than anything else normal...

you see, there is a difference between taking inspiration from sources (like roman mythology, chinese ancestry, etc) and completely copying a COPYRIGHTED creature... aka Stitch. The appearance, the mindset, the hidden ferocity within a cute cuddly front.... advanced technology.... shall I continue with the similarities? (oh and if charr really are more like Kilrathi than I know, that game was from Origin... isn't like half of the origin games staff working for ncsoft? its not really stealing if you created it to begin with)

arcanemacabre · Mar 26, 2007, 07:55 AM // 07:55

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Originally Posted by Miral

why not look at the logs from march 19th to today? you will find a completely different group being vocal. the people that didnt want the new features had no reason to talk about them before, they just played the game as it was. but now that everything is changing, the people who liked the game as it is have reason to speak. so go back, take new logs from this past week, and then reevaluate the changes.

Of course it would be weighed more toward people that hate the changes. Two reasons:

1) People hate changes. Before this released info about GW2, there was a lot of people talking about what this game should have, including higher levels, playable races, mounts, etc. All very popular things many people want. Thing is, most of these people will probably agree that these things can't just be added in because of how GW is already. They are discussing how things could have been, ya know, if GW started out with these ideas.

As it is, no, people don't want GW to change that drastically. They think that when people say "Hey, they're thinking about raising the level cap to like 100+" in-game, that angers a lot of people who don't know the whole story and think the world as they know it will crumble around them. They fail to realise that this info changes nothing about the game they love so much. Guild Wars is not changing at all, this is a new game being discussed, which leads me to my second point:

2) People don't know the whole story! I would venture to say that most of the people hating these ideas have not read the PC Gamer article and are basing their judgements solely on summaries and opinions. Even if you have read the article, it doesn't fully describe what the higher levels mean, nor does it go into exhausting detail about instancing and various other qualms people are having.

Also, keep in mind that this is a couple of years away, and many, many things will change from now till then. If there's one thing you can count on, it's the fact that Anet wants to make money. They are not going to release a game that no one will like. What they will do is make sure they please as many people as possible, veteran GW players and newbies alike.

You can't just put up a poll asking something like "What do you think about a higher level cap?" without a rather large qualifier explaining that it's not in this game, but rather a different game entirely, and that there are plans to have as little grind as possible remain, etc. These things are in the article, and even though they are summarized by posters who have the mag, are not carrying over to well, nor understood that well and thus taken out of context. So all most people get is "OMG, raising the level cap? No way, bad move, Anet!" over and over.

Voting only really works when the voters are well-informed. In this case, nobody is really informed, and the best approach is of course, "wait and see".

Pheronike · Mar 26, 2007, 07:57 AM // 07:57

I did read the article and must say I'm pretty disappointed, maybe it will wear off over time, maybe not.

They offer a way to take you GW1 achievements into GW2 by a 'Hall of Monuments', WOW (sarcastic). I love to have my own monument.

As to the no subscription fee: I've paid about 150€ over the period of one year, and they are expecting me to buy yet another one. Lot's of games exist that don't require you to buy it and they do have a subscribtion fee less than 10€/month.

As for the larger instances: lag kills me now alread. Every weekend the game get's unpleasant because of massive lag. I didn't see the celestial pig because of lag. And that was with only 100 players in the same instance and they want to make it 800?

And if I were to decide to buy and play GW2 will it be as good as GW1? Let's assume all my dreams come true in GW2, what's to stop Anet from starting GW3 after yet another year?

boko · Mar 26, 2007, 07:58 AM // 07:58

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Originally Posted by Miral

hm not played this Wing Commander... but the only good pic i could find, Kilrathi looks more like a mountain lion people... charr seem to look more like hiyenas than anything else normal...

you see, there is a difference between taking inspiration from sources (like roman mythology, chinese ancestry, etc) and completely copying a COPYRIGHTED creature... aka Stitch. The appearance, the mindset, the hidden ferocity within a cute cuddly front.... advanced technology.... shall I continue with the similarities? (oh and if charr really are more like Kilrathi than I know, that game was from Origin... isn't like half of the origin games staff working for ncsoft? its not really stealing if you created it to begin with)

Kilrathi also are a copyright in case you don't know. They are from an already existing game. If you can;t find a picture, then you are in a bad place to comment on them. But, i played most of the Wing commander series and i do know them. They have a lot in common with charrs in terms of physical appearance. Moreover, they were the only bad guys in a world where Human were the heroes. Does that ring a bell here? Oh, and Kilrathi piloted ships and used guns too. So, maybe i should assume they use guns and piloted ships in GW like from their the original Wing commander game from which they were ripped off. Just like you are assuming tha Asuras are suddenly going to use advanced tech because asuras are ripped off from Lilo and stitch

Hyprodimus Prime · Mar 26, 2007, 07:59 AM // 07:59

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Originally Posted by Dalmascan Princess

What if working for your "dream home" was a lot of fun and you did it because you enjojed it? Because you might care for the house, but care much more about the "work"? (The "dream house/work" metaphor doesn't really work if you see that "game =/= work", but I'll go with it for the moment.) In that case, I would continue having fun building that home and be happy that no one's talking about shutting GW1's servers down. I can continue building it. (And if by "dream home" we mean something like a char with the armour and weapons I like best, well - he won't be any less useful just because there's suddenly a different game (i.e. GW2) around.)

Do you like to work for free? Unless you are already rich, its probably no. You work to get what you want. What you want wont matter in a few years. Having fun and working in GW is intertwined, it separates the boys from men(....or you might see it as average guy from geek with no life). I dont really call doing UW runs 200 times to get ectos "fun", showing off FoW armor is though.

Meat Axe · Mar 26, 2007, 08:00 AM // 08:00

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Originally Posted by Phantom Flux

Let's keep this real. The posters that are rooting for GW2's release are honestly just trying to brown nose to Gaile Gray and ArenaNet just to merit on their good side regardles if deep down what's to become of GW2 is just bad,unless they are one of those players who started GW1 so late that they feel left behind and to have absolutely no character migration in GW2 would give them somewhere to actually start. It is absolutely the equivelent to the Celebrity feud between Rosie O'Donnel and the Donald Trump: Where Rosie gets bashed for telling the truth about Donald by a public-band wagon, yet behind the scenes they agree with everyword she says, but is afraid to admit it in hopes the Donald would slip them a check. Although, I wouldn't mind getting a piece of that check. Shoot atleast you are getting quite some cash to kiss booty. However, Arenanet isn't giving us a tangible benefit.

Right, so because the people who are actually looking forward to something that you obviously aren't are brown-nosers. Simply because they have a different opinion to you. Because you're obviously the centre of the universe, and everything that you think is completely correct. Am I keeping it real now?

Don't be an idiot. Do you honestly believe what you just said? Because if you're that self-obsessed maybe you should get professional help. I'm not saying that because I'm trying to insult you, I'm honestly thinking you need it. Prove me wrong.

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And of course the ones keeping it real are the ones booing GW2's release for swiping out the appeals about GW1: The non-overwhelm of grinding to level 50 to 100. Thank goodness there is still no subscription fees, but GW1 does have a flexibility for the real life-busy consumer that have a job (not all having to deal with Computer games.)

I agree with Dalmascan Princess. We don't know anything about what GW2 will be like. It's not "keeping it real" to whine about something that is 2 years or more from being released. If you have something that you don't like about the game, there are two things you should do:

a) calmly state what you don't like about GW2, making your post legible and intelligent.
b) wait for the Beta test, or some more concrete info, and you'll actually find out whether any of your worries actually came into fruition.

Dalmascan Princess · Mar 26, 2007, 08:12 AM // 08:12

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Originally Posted by Hyprodimus Prime

Do you like to work for free? Unless you are already rich, its probably no. You work to get what you want. What you want wont matter in a few years. Having fun and working in GW is intertwined, it separates the boys from men(....or you might see it as average guy from geek with no life). I dont really call doing UW runs 200 times to get ectos "fun", showing off FoW armor is though.

Do you like to work for free, you ask. I could easily ay "Well, if the work is fun, of course", since, you know, the "you must be rich if you say so" part breaks your "GW = working for a dream house" metaphor: There is no "being rich" outside this little economy that matters. (Ah, I don't know how to explain this more clearly. Anyway, moving on to the next point.) That point is that "do you like to work for free" isn't really a question that works: You aren't paid for playing a game that's supposed to be fun, or, if that sounds better, you are paid with the fun you have. And if you have fun building that home, that's all you could ask for, no?

However - you also said that "ecto runs" (your "work") isn't fun, but that having the fissure armour ("dream house"). In your original example, you also talked of dying in 2.5 years, so the house/armour isn't worth anything anymore. Would you agree that if you didn't die but got an additional life in addition to the one you already have (so your "dream house" is still there, still valid, if you so want), that nothing you have, nothing you're working for is lost?
Because that's what i think happens, unless you completely abandon GW for GW2 as soon as that's out, even though you'd still like to play GW. Just keep playing it (maybe in addition to GW2) and be happy. No need to stop, no?

Miral · Mar 26, 2007, 08:14 AM // 08:14

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Originally Posted by arcanemacabre

Of course it would be weighed more toward people that hate the changes. Two reasons:

1) People hate changes. Before this released info about GW2, there was a lot of people talking about what this game should have, including higher levels, playable races, mounts, etc. All very popular things many people want. Thing is, most of these people will probably agree that these things can't just be added in because of how GW is already. They are discussing how things could have been, ya know, if GW started out with these ideas.

As it is, no, people don't want GW to change that drastically. They think that when people say "Hey, they're thinking about raising the level cap to like 100+" in-game, that angers a lot of people who don't know the whole story and think the world as they know it will crumble around them. They fail to realise that this info changes nothing about the game they love so much. Guild Wars is not changing at all, this is a new game being discussed, which leads me to my second point:

2) People don't know the whole story! I would venture to say that most of the people hating these ideas have not read the PC Gamer article and are basing their judgements solely on summaries and opinions. Even if you have read the article, it doesn't fully describe what the higher levels mean, nor does it go into exhausting detail about instancing and various other qualms people are having.

Also, keep in mind that this is a couple of years away, and many, many things will change from now till then. If there's one thing you can count on, it's the fact that Anet wants to make money. They are not going to release a game that no one will like. What they will do is make sure they please as many people as possible, veteran GW players and newbies alike.

You can't just put up a poll asking something like "What do you think about a higher level cap?" without a rather large qualifier explaining that it's not in this game, but rather a different game entirely, and that there are plans to have as little grind as possible remain, etc. These things are in the article, and even though they are summarized by posters who have the mag, are not carrying over to well, nor understood that well and thus taken out of context. So all most people get is "OMG, raising the level cap? No way, bad move, Anet!" over and over.

Voting only really works when the voters are well-informed. In this case, nobody is really informed, and the best approach is of course, "wait and see".

I do see where you are coming from, but yuo also touched on my point within your post. yes, it will be weighted more towards people that hate the changes now, because this is all new to a lot of people. before, the people who liked the game as is were quiet while the people that would rather have it more WoW-like were vocal for change. But now that there is the changes, the people who wanted them have the home field, and theres no reason for them to talk about them anymore. ok they get their changes and play em. but now the people who were happy with the game want it changed back, so now thats where the vocal bunch lies.

one big problem is that guild wars 1 IS changing. Its' not in such an obvious way as the changes that are going into guild wars 2, but it is change. first of all, the new chapters, which in all actuality were a key feature of the guild wars game style, are being stopped. no more new chapters anymore. Next, the amount of people available to play with is going to go down as people try out guild wars 2. large guilds will feel obligated to move, even if not all the members are. so now you have broken guilds and emptier outposts. Finally, you have the guild wars servers themselves. No, they're not going to suddenly disappear when gw2 is released, but you can be damned sure theyre not going to support them nearly as well as they have for the past two years, since they will have gw2 to look after, and it will only get worse as time goes on until they just decide to scrap the gw1 servers when something malfunctions.

Miral · Mar 26, 2007, 08:18 AM // 08:18

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Originally Posted by boko

Kilrathi also are a copyright in case you don't know. They are from an already existing game. If you can;t find a picture, then you are in a bad place to comment on them. But, i played most of the Wing commander series and i do know them. They have a lot in common with charrs in terms of physical appearance. Moreover, they were the only bad guys in a world where Human were the heroes. Does that ring a bell here? Oh, and Kilrathi piloted ships and used guns too. So, maybe i should assume they use guns and piloted ships in GW like from their the original Wing commander game from which they were ripped off. Just like you are assuming tha Asuras are suddenly going to use advanced tech because asuras are ripped off from Lilo and stitch

ok two things wrong here.

1. charr are far from the only bad guys in tyria. hell compared to the lich and the mursaat and the titans, they are NOTHING.

2. One of the magazine quotes mentioned asura having advanced technology, I'm not just assuming that from it being a rip off of stitch; rather, that is one of the points of why it is a ripoff.

boko · Mar 26, 2007, 08:31 AM // 08:31

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Originally Posted by Miral

ok two things wrong here.

1. charr are far from the only bad guys in tyria. hell compared to the lich and the mursaat and the titans, they are NOTHING.

2. One of the magazine quotes mentioned asura having advanced technology, I'm not just assuming that from it being a rip off of stitch; rather, that is one of the points of why it is a ripoff.

So, you are going to gnaw at every tid bits ... is that it? Tell me what is it that you want? to prove that you are right coz you hate losing? or are you really genuinely worried about GW2?

Of course, that Charrs are not the only bad guys in GW. But , does that prove that Charrs are not a rip off of Kilrathi? Does the fact that Cantha does not look EXACTLY like Asia and Hong Kong mean that they were not ripped from there? Does the fact that Nighfall has similarities with Egypt cultures but at same time, has some differences mean that NF was not inspires from Egypt?

The magazine says "advanced technology". In nowhere else, did it say technology like in Lilo and Stictch. Advanced technology in Guild wars is as open and vague a term. Advanced Technology may even refer to catapults or even wooden high tech infracstructures like the Giant Crab Base in the Luxon territory. Because, in a world where people are still using wooden carts, advanced technology can mean a lot of things.

Miral · Mar 26, 2007, 08:40 AM // 08:40

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Originally Posted by boko

So, you are going to gnaw at every tid bits ... is that it? Tell me what is it that you want? to prove that you are right coz you hate losing? or are you really genuinely worried about GW2?

Of course, that Charrs are not the only bad guys in GW. But , does that prove that Charrs are not a rip off of Kilrathi? Does the fact that Cantha does not look EXACTLY like Asia and Hong Kong mean that they were not ripped from there? Does the fact that Nighfall has similarities with Egypt cultures but at same time, has some differences mean that NF was not inspires from Egypt?

The magazine says "advanced technology". In nowhere else, did it say technology like in Lilo and Stictch. Advanced technology in Guild wars is as open and vague a term. Advanced Technology may even refer to catapults or even wooden high tech infracstructures like the Giant Crab Base in the Luxon territory. Because, in a world where people are still using wooden carts, advanced technology can mean a lot of things.

the point was that they would have higher technology than what humans have...

but anyways.

its not that I want to be right. its not that I think GW2 is going to be horrible, I'm sure it will be a good game for those who like the features. My problem is that they are stopping support on guildwars1 to make something very different from the game we are playing. If they had set up a second team and had the first team continue with gw1 chapters while the new team makes a new game loosely based on guild wars, that would be fine. but to completely trash the guild wars 1 update style and eventually its servers, in favor of a new game that will be fundamentally different from what we are playing (though significantly more similar to OTHER MMO games)....

but anyways, the Stitch thing was a completely other subject I suppose. just something I noticed and others caught on, and it became more and more apparent.

arcanemacabre · Mar 26, 2007, 08:49 AM // 08:49

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Originally Posted by Miral

My problem is that they are stopping support on guildwars1 to make something very different from the game we are playing. If they had set up a second team and had the first team continue with gw1 chapters while the new team makes a new game loosely based on guild wars, that would be fine. but to completely trash the guild wars 1 update style and eventually its servers, in favor of a new game that will be fundamentally different from what we are playing (though significantly more similar to OTHER MMO games)....

They are not stopping further chapters on GW1 in favor of working on a new game. They are stopping further chapters on GW1 because they feel it's getting "bloated", which is something a lot of people have been complaining about, too. The more and more outposts/towns, missions, explorables, etc. there are, the fewer the people there will be in each of them, because they are diluted.

Each time a new chapter was released, there were always a lot of threads claiming GW is dying, with references to more and more desolated outposts. This was obviously not due to the playerbase leaving, but more to do with it being thinned out because of more and more areas they could be in. This is detrimental to the game as a whole.

Eye of the North addresses this by being an "expansion", and not an entirely new continent. Even still, there are three full-sized continents and that's just too much for the style of play GW has. They felt like they had to add heroes to make up for the thinned out parties in Nightfall, while not really addressing the real problem of an ever-expanding game.

boko · Mar 26, 2007, 08:51 AM // 08:51

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Originally Posted by Miral

the point was that they would have higher technology than what humans have...

but anyways.

its not that I want to be right. its not that I think GW2 is going to be horrible, I'm sure it will be a good game for those who like the features. My problem is that they are stopping support on guildwars1 to make something very different from the game we are playing. If they had set up a second team and had the first team continue with gw1 chapters while the new team makes a new game loosely based on guild wars, that would be fine. but to completely trash the guild wars 1 update style and eventually its servers, in favor of a new game that will be fundamentally different from what we are playing (though significantly more similar to OTHER MMO games)....

but anyways, the Stitch thing was a completely other subject I suppose. just something I noticed and others caught on, and it became more and more apparent.

True. I am as sad as you that GW1 will be left behind. And i do share your fears

... and I apologise if i may have seem bold but i hate baseless thrash-talk.

Meat Axe · Mar 26, 2007, 08:55 AM // 08:55

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Originally Posted by Miral

the point was that they would have higher technology than what humans have...

but anyways.

its not that I want to be right. its not that I think GW2 is going to be horrible, I'm sure it will be a good game for those who like the features. My problem is that they are stopping support on guildwars1 to make something very different from the game we are playing. If they had set up a second team and had the first team continue with gw1 chapters while the new team makes a new game loosely based on guild wars, that would be fine. but to completely trash the guild wars 1 update style and eventually its servers, in favor of a new game that will be fundamentally different from what we are playing (though significantly more similar to OTHER MMO games)....

but anyways, the Stitch thing was a completely other subject I suppose. just something I noticed and others caught on, and it became more and more apparent.

But the reason Anet wants to make a GW2 is that their plans for the game can't be accomplished on their current engine, or at least that it would be easier to make a new engine then try and get the things to work on the old one. It has nothing to do with Anet wanting to "trash" their old game.

And on a side note, Anet can under no circumstance be sued for copyright infringement for the Asura or any other creature in the game. It's not copyright infringement to get ideas from another source. How do you think there are so many books being published? They aren't all completely unique, they just have their own unique twist to ideas that someone else has had. It'll be the same with the Asura and with GW2.

And also, the Asura may be based more on nocturnal and cave-dwelling creatures from reality than it is from any fictional creature. It has all the features of, say, a bilby or a bat, (huge ears, eyes that are used to see in the dark, pale skin), however it has human characteristics, as if it is simply a race evolved from one of those cave-dwelling creatures.